Saturday 12 May 2012

Continuing the quest

So I have been quietly (for the most part) following the recent furore over same-sex marriage.


  • Of particular amusement has been the back and forth between @drpetersaunders and a bunch of mainly non-christians who have been offended by his "homosceptism" (his pathetic attempt at vocabulary which translates as homophobic to the rest of us)
  • Of particular excitement has been President Obama's speech in which he claims support for same- sex marriage
  • Of particular worry is that the Coalition for Marriage petition has over half a million signatures
  • Of particular interest has been Out and Around a website that follows two lesbians as they trot around the globe investigating the LGBT community all across the world
I have been trying so hard not to get too defensive over this whole debate. No, honestly, even at church they have a copy of the C4M petition on the wall, and although I wanted to a) get out of there as fast as possible, or b) hunt down whoever put it there and kick some ass, I instead calmly accepted it, and decided I won't get on the defensive but will wait and find out how seriously they take that rubbish (to be fair, I am new to this church and a poster like that doesn't exactly make me feel welcome!). 

So I've been attempting to stay calm, but some things really rile me. Or rather, some people's ignorance. I'd like to demonstrate some of the opinions other Christians have towards gay people, and gay Christians.
These are from a discussion about Obama's speech on the UCB radio's Facebook page (warning: it's more painful than reading the Daily Mail readers' comments):

"I wouldn't vote for them. It shows immorality"

"God created Adam and eve not Adam and Steve! I would not be voting for him if I had the chance, we must remain faithful to scripture"

"Wrong wrong wrong ! totally wrong! gays should not be aloud!"

"He's sold his soul"

"Once every man marries every man and every woman marries every woman, who is going to give birth to the babies they have to adopt? Soon human beings will go on extinct. God does not make mistake and will never make mistake to create a man in woman's body likewise a woman in a man's body. Its the devil that plays with people's mind and he is ready to take as many people to hell as he could. No one is judging but remember this is the end time - "Take heed lest ye fall"."

"if the whole world should go 'gay',in d nxt 2 centuries 4rm nw mankind will cease 2 exist!"

Of course, I have picked out only the ridiculous comments, and my favourite comment by far was from a 17 year old gay Christian who said "do you people hear yourselves?!" and I thought that sums it up really, if they could hear themselves through the ears of the people they are condemning then they might realise the poison in their words. As a side note, I love UCB a lot, just not some of the comments their listeners make, not just on this issue.

At risk of this post being too long, like most are, I shall leave you with these 2 things.

Firstly, you might enjoy (or not) Andrea Minichiello William's latest offering here

Secondly, so you don't become disillusioned about Christianity, here's some truth:

Romans 8:1-4 "If you belong to Christ Jesus, you won’t be punished. The Holy Spirit will give you life that comes from Christ Jesus and will set you free from sin and death. The Law of Moses cannot do this, because our selfish desires make the Law weak. But God set you free when he sent his own Son to be like us sinners and to be a sacrifice for our sin. God used Christ’s body to condemn sin. He did this, so that we would do what the Law commands by obeying the Spirit instead of our own desires."